Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby Coda » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:30 pm

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... necessary/

First-graders should not be forced into the classrooms of teachers undergoing sex changes. Religious broadcasters and faith-based summer camps should not be forced to hire cross-dressers. Women should not be forced to share bathrooms with people with male body parts who say they want to be females. Yet those are some of the likely results if Congress passes H.R. 3017, the so-called Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which is due for a vote this week by the House Education and Labor Committee.

ENDA purports to "prohibit employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity." Clever politically correct wording aside, this is a direct attack on common sense. On some matters, it is good to be discriminating. It is right to discriminate between honesty and dishonesty, between politeness and impoliteness, between right and wrong. And it assuredly is right to be discriminating in choosing who teaches our children. ENDA would make it impossible for a non-church-based charter school, for instance, to remove from the classroom a "she-male" who insists on exposing her pupils to her unnatural transformation.

This is no idle threat. ENDA would supersede the laws of 38 states that do not have laws treatingthose with an unusual "gender identity" as a legally protected "class" of citizens. Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition wrote in the April 20 edition of Roll Call about several examples of cross-dressing or sex-changing teachers who claimed protections under state disability laws (in the 12 states that do indeed protect "gender identity") and were able to remain in the classroom despite parents' protests. Perhaps the worst was at California's Foxboro Elementary School, where a music teacher underwent surgery to become a man, but parents originally were not even notified because administrators feared running afoul of medical privacy laws.

Even if California wants to be so foolish, the residents of the 38 states without such absurd legal strictures shouldn't be forced to do the same. States have a sovereign right to set standards governing behavioral - as opposed to immutable - personal characteristics.

ENDA does provide supposed exemptions for churches and church-based schools to refuse to employ sex-changers and cross-dressers. But the exemption is far less than meets the eye. Even religious organizations, under the standards cited, are prohibited from making employment decisions based on the worker's sex. ENDA opponents rightly cite last year's 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals note in Prowel v. Wise Business Forms that "the line between sexual orientation discrimination and discrimination 'because of sex' can be difficult to draw." In short, courts easily could decide that even parochial schools must hire she-males to teach their kindergartners.

Similar problems abound in this bill, which treats a conscious decision to choose a new or different sexual identity as if it were an inherent, unavoidable condition. But it's not. It's actually a psychological disorder, officially listed as such by the current American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Our children and our co-workers should not be forced by law to be held hostage to such disorders, nor should employers be forced to have psychologically troubled persons as the public face of their businesses.


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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby Zilla » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:47 pm

This is the most hate-filled editorial I have seen in a long time... This person doesn't deserve the benefits he takes for granted in our society.

This hurts so much to read. I can't believe such ignorance and bigotry is still present, and worse, being published. It's just... It's so sad.

This person treats transgender people like they are diseased. I can EASILY see this exact same article being written by racists, if you just replace all the gender-nonconformity things with races. The only thing different is that he's trying to claim that, because it is listed in the DSM, it is inherently a derangement that should disqualify people from performing their duty.

Edit: At least there is someone with sanity in the comments...

What rubbish. I'm getting sick and tired of this fear mongering. It's strange that many states and countries who do have these laws function perfectly well and are non the worse for it. There will always be examples to say otherwise but then there are always examples equally to the contrary. Lets have an open honest decent human discussion instead of pandering to the lowest common denominator when you really have lost the argument and prefer to sow the seeds of divion and misinformation. Get on a plane and do some more travelling and embrace life in all its many and varied wonderful facets.


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I find your editorial hateful, ill informed and strewn with bigotry. You said, “Women should not be forced to share bathrooms with people with male body parts,” and the root of that is the concept that women are prey and men are predators. To accept that argument is to accept the concept of – she deserved to be raped because she was wearing a short skirt – because prey should protect themselves. Strike One. You say, “it is right to discriminate between honesty and dishonesty, between politeness and impoliteness, between right and wrong,” so you are saying it is wrong and dishonest to be gay. You use an offensive phrase “she-male” which is associated with pornography. Most transsexuals are not involved in pornography; actually most of the pornographic actors and actresses are straight. You also say that there is an, “unnatural transformation” and I believe that if you read research biologist Joan Roughgarten’s work, you will find it is very present in nature. Strike Two. You said, “States . . . set standards governing behavioral - as opposed to immutable - personal characteristics.” Repeatedly research is showing transsexuality is biologically based. The Orginization International Intersexualle recognizes transsexuality as a form of intersexuality. There are repeated brain studies that show that transsexuals brains function as their identified sex as opposed to their assigned sex. There is also research on the Sox9 portion of the genetic structure that is found to effect the sex of the brain and this is quite common in the transsexual population. So it is biological, as biological. Strike Three. You say that, “even parochial schools must hire she-males to teach their kindergartners.” Well I would say that roughly 90% of the population is straight, and roughly 10% are gay and about 1% have gender issues and may be transsexual or intersexed. On the other hand, in all of history there have only been two transgendered pedophiles, additionally less than 10% of child molesters are gray, so your children would be safer with the gays and the transgendered than with the straights. Strike Four. You speak of, “a conscious decision to choose a new or different sexual identity,” well it is not a choice. You say further, “It's actually a psychological disorder,” but you fail to observe that the same tome insists that the Gender Identity Disorder listed should not be use prejudicially. That is why it is changed to Gender Incongruence. In the new edition. You should not try to practice mental health without a license. Strike Five.


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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby strange_person » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:40 pm

Technically, I agree with the editorial on one point: I don't think first graders should be forced into classrooms at all. This country could stand to have a much wider range of educational options.
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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby Alfador » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:04 pm

this is a direct attack on common sense.


No, this is a direct attack on Bronze Age values that have become useless and toxic to the people and societies that exist today.
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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby draque » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:54 am

They use the DSM's definition of TS as an anvil to bang their moral hammer against, but totally fail to mention that it also lists gender reassignment surgery as a valid form of treatment/therapy for the condition. They make claims that children will be "held hostage" to it in a way that could be applied to nearly anything (my child is being held hostage to his evil teacher's immoral diabetes!). They imply heavily that men are inherently predatious, and that they're trying to get around society's safeguards by changing their genders. They make the absurd statement that people choose to be TS. There's not a lot of reason going on there. The only thing that shocks me is that this passes for news in a respected paper. Part of me wonders if papers becoming more conservative is an effect of the youth abandoning them...
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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby Idiot Glee » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:12 am

draque wrote:Part of me wonders if papers becoming more conservative is an effect of the youth abandoning them...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washin ... l_leanings

Nah, they were always like that...
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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby Coda » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:44 am

Huh, this article is even mentioned on the Wikipedia page. Interesting.
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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby mwchase » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:31 am

Horrible thought of the day: If most men are predators, does that mean that necrophiliacs are scavengers?

That aside, I just realized how odd the 'men as predators' idea is, coming from the right. I mean, isn't that the sort of 'disparagement of the privileged' attack that they usually protest against? I highly doubt they'd take someone saying "whites are land-thieves" lying down, but if, hypothetically, you attribute different behaviors to race, that starts to look really fucking plausible. That digression aside, I really do think it's peculiar. Unless this is one of those "natural order" things that provides the surface creepiness of Kevin and Kell.

Speaking of wandering wildly from topic to topic... Nah, I've got nothing.

Except, if "States have a sovereign right to set standards governing behavioral - as opposed to immutable - personal characteristics.", why not outlaw something unhygienic, like spitting in public? AFAIK, it's not as much a problem here as elsewhere, but, you know, it spreads stuff.
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Re: Editorial: "Discrimination Is Necessary"

Postby Anna » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:27 am

Wikipedia - Germany
Der Medienkritiker David Brock schrieb, dass die Washington Times "von einer News Bias beherrscht wurde, die auf berechnende Art unfair ist, und dass seine journalistische Ethik nahe Null" sei.

Oh, you can't understand?
Ok, the original article

an excerpt:
http://dir.salon.com/story/books/featur ... index.html
...Considering that the paper was governed by a calculatedly unfair political bias and that its journalistic ethics were close to nil. ...


So, It's a paper wich isn't worth to notice, - normally -, but I must say: "Wehret den Änfängen!" - resist the beginnings!
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