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Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:51 am
by Plasman
Greetings, Folks!

I am starting up a new thread for the Accursed Toys game Boppin' in this area, because I suspect it will generate more discussion over here than over there.

If you haven't played it before, or only tried the old DOS demo that was kicking around back in the days of Apogee, an updated Windows-ready version is now available on this page. It runs very well in most versions of Windows 95+, and offers both a full-screen and windowed mode. You can also make your own levels with it to share with everyone!

I'd like to know if anyone else here has played Boppin', and if so, do you have any feedback for Stephen and Jennifer? I'm sure they'd appreciate any constructive comments and questions.
And if you're stuck on any of the levels, you could always ask here for help! (I've played all the way through it, yes, even Ep4 Lev39, Jenny! :lol: ) I can also provide assistance to anyone having trouble with the level editor, if you need it.

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:58 pm
by Jordan the Jovial
Does Boppin' run in Vista? I was looking forward to playing Boppin' with a Windows-user who is a friend despite that but it proved to be playable — only the windowed version works, and even at his notebook's lowest possible resolution it's still too small to make anything out. And trying to open the full-screen version, the screen goes black and then there's an error message, we click OK and it quits. I don't remember what the message is or exactly what version of Vista he has — I'd need to ask for that and before I do, I'd like to first check that this isn't an incompatibility with any computer running Windows Vista.

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:29 pm
by Alfador
It might just be video card or laptop screen incompatibility with the low resolution.

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:44 am
by Plasman
Meh.
I'm surprised anything still works with Vista. Wasn't that a total rebuild of the Windows environment, as opposed to the "fancy-up" that Win95 was to 3.1?
(I may be wrong about that... hell, I haven't even been privileged to see Vista in action yet.)

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:53 pm
by twirliquin
Boppin v2.0.5 does not run under any Windows on newer hardware such as laptops; it seems that screen designers have dropped support for older video formats such as 320 x 200 with 8-bit palette-based graphics. I was not aware of this until someone brought it up and I tried Boppin' out on a laptop with Vista. Bummer.

The upshot is I'm modifying Boppin' to run with 640 x 480 graphics (well, technically, 640 x 400 in a "letter-boxed" edition). Lots of little tweaks required throughout the code to support doubling the graphics size (what can I say, I wrote this code nearly twenty years ago). Once I get 640 x 480 with 8-bit graphics working, I need to support 32-bit color mode. And no, I'm not redoing all of the graphics, I'm just supporting 32-bit color mode so that on my laptop I can play Boppin' in full-screen mode. Hard part is going to get color-cycling to work in a 32-bit world.

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:33 pm
by Monthenor
Plasman wrote:Meh.
I'm surprised anything still works with Vista. Wasn't that a total rebuild of the Windows environment, as opposed to the "fancy-up" that Win95 was to 3.1?

It was going to be a total rebuild, including a new kernel and new filesystem and everything, but as time wore on and (especially) Linux and OSX started making inroads, Microsoft panicked and released essentially XP++. Still largely XP with a lot of "security" dialogs between apps and the kernel.

It's a losing proposition either way. Lots of old apps stopped working properly when they ditched more of the legacy DOS support and when the security checks went up, but many many more would have failed if they really did have a new filesystem. They can't afford to make a clean break with their past Windows, but they desperately need to do so to actually fix things.

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:40 pm
by Ashes
Windows 7 is a clean break. The beta was leaked last week. I heard it's miraculously good for a Windows OS.

Re: Boppin' (Take 2)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:36 pm
by Monthenor
Ashes wrote:Windows 7 is a clean break. The beta was leaked last week. I heard it's miraculously good for a Windows OS.

High-fives all around, then. I had heard they hadn't completely abandoned the new filesystem, but I didn't think it was ready this soon.